1.8" Hard Drives - Confirmed to Work

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  1. webdude12

    --kadu--

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    HI GUYS, I'M WITH A PROBLEM WITH MY MK3008GAL. The AAO not correctly recognized the HD as photos below (see the name of HD, it NOT appears the numbers 3 and 8). When you try to install windows, he recognized the partition but can not format or install windows. Is HD the problem of incompatibility with the BIOS, or problem in their own HD? I appreciate all the support possible!
    (Sorry bad english, i´m from BRAZIL)

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    Thank´s!
     
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    Hey I hope somebody can help me out.

    I want to install the toshiba mk4004gah from my ipod 3g.

    It's a 40gb drive but it has a pin connector (50pins I think) so I need a way to connect these pins to the zif.

    Any tips????
     
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    Sorry form my english :p My Acer On 110L doesn't recognize hard disk samsung 60 gb (HS06THB). I try hard dsik in my desktop (with adapter) and it work's. Before this samsung I tried 2 toshiba 60GB GAH without problem (unfortunately both with bad sectors).
    Why my acer one doesn't recognize this hard disk?
     
    zephyr83, Feb 13, 2009
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    Okay I'm trying to paint a clear picture for all the noobs out there like myself.

    I took my Acer apart 3 different times when I tried to install a Hitachi 20GB Zif drive and the BIOS failed to detect the drive.

    For Hitachi drives, you need a FLIP cable in order for the BIOS to detect it?

    For Toshiba drives, you need to sand down a ZIF cable in order to get it to fit into the hard drive?

    For Samsung drives, you can just use the standard OEM ZIF cable with no modifications?
     
    goalweiser, Feb 15, 2009
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    I have installed a Toshiba MK4009GAL drive!! Works like a charm.
     
    TRUTI, Feb 16, 2009
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    homiesmurf

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    MK2008GAL works once I flipped the cable as described by zephyr83. Kudos!

    -Fred
     
    homiesmurf, Apr 12, 2009
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    Freecom XXS portable drives. Nice and light, very quiet, small and easy to use. Recommended.
     
    andymaxwell, Apr 28, 2009
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    Yeah :lol:
    Reading between the lines helps LOL
    You are correct some HD need Flip cables some need to be sanded down and other can be added straight up.

    Just make sure when you do this mod, to READ everything and make sure which mod is correct for you.

    Its a Mod, so you are responsible for your own actions, Modifications can go terribly wrong or Perfectly successfull.
    The % of damages can be lowered by researching it extensively.

    Glad it worked out for yall.
     
    ipearl, May 2, 2009
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    how about SEAGATE LYRION 30GB 1.8" HDD, it is work or not ?
     
    sharkk, May 25, 2009
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    PLEASE write more clearly and PLEASE update it in the OP, especially when dealing with damages to hardware. As I'm sure you know, "Flip" is usually a verb and, when read as such, it describes what someone can DO to the cable. Yeah, to someone reading it that way, it isn't entirely clear what you are telling them to "flip" ("flip" one end over or "flip" the entire cable around), it is very clear by some responses here that some people interpreted it that way...

    zephyr83's post clearly showed two different cables and not one cable being flipped. In fact, it looked like he switched from a Flip cable TO the standard cable, albeit, with the contacts facing away from the PCB (is this normal?). So this beggs the question: Does it TRULY need a flip cable or can flipping the cable over do the trick?

    If not, please say in the OP "Flip cables are a different kind of cable" and then change "Flip cable" to "Use Flip cable" next to the drives that require it. It would seem that flipping one end would cause pin one to move unless the motherboard connector has contacts on both sides of the connector and you could flip it over too (zephyr83's post did NOT show this).

    I want to buy a Hitachi, so let's clear up the confusion once and for all. I'd sure hate to burn up a drive despite your attempts to warn me just because this whole thread wasn't clear enough.

    Now, is it a simple matter of making sure pin 1 on the board is connected to pin 1 on the cable and connected to pin one on the drive? I've never dealt with 1.8" drives, but I've never had trouble finding pin 1 on any 2.5" drive or adapter either even though they obviously do not conform to desktop conventions. I saw it clearly marked on a picture of someone's CF-to-ZIF adapter on there forums too. That said, I expect it to be easy enough to determine on a 1.8" drive or SSD, even if that means pulling up the specifications from the manufacturer.

    Now, standard 3.5" PATA HDDs always have pin 1 on the side of their power connector but if you didn't know that it is also marked there and other places in other ways:
    There may be an arrow marked in the plastic shroud around the connector
    There may be an arrow or a small "1" in the same label diagram that shows the jumper settings
    There may be a white arrow or square silk-screened on the PCB where pin 1 is soldered to it
    There may be an square-shaped metal pad where pin one is soldered on the PCB while all others are round
    Pin one is marked on the cable by the darkly striped wire (usually, solid or broken/dashed red)
    Pin one is almost always marked on a PC motherboard with a white silk-screened arrow or a solid white triangular corner in the rectangle silk-screened around the IDE connector.

    Are some or any ZIF connectors double-sided? I'm assuming that the Hitachi drives' ZIF connectors aren't, but if the motherboard's is, you may not need a Flip cable after all.

    I dunno... He didn't "describe" it at all, but it certainly looks more like he switched to a standard cable. He doesn't show it plugged in, so are you saying that you "flipped" the end that goes into the drive? That's the same way he had the Flip cable plugged in, so that must be the side with contacts. Considering that you could orient the drive either way, I'd hesitate to say that it was "flipped" in any way. Did you guys flip the motherboard end and the connector there is double-sided? If so, explain! Thanks.

    I'm planning on buying a Hitachi so I need this whole "Flip" business cleared up BEFORE I fry a drive.
     
    CZroe, May 27, 2009
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    I used a Toshiba MK3008GAL that I recovered from a dead 30G Zune. booted up first try. I didn't want to damage my zif cable incase I decided to reinsert the original ssd, so I ordered a zif-lif cable from ebay for 7.99. Toshiba drives use lif (low insertion force). The nice thing about using a hdd from the Zune is that it was already shock-proofed with rubber wrappings around the edges.
     
    markiefufu, May 27, 2009
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    Brief how-to make FLIPPED (FLIP) ZIF cable for Acer Aspire One:

    1) Take STANDARD ZIF cable (i.e. one from Aspire's 8 Gb SSD);
    2) Remove blue sticker from one end of the cable;
    3) Have a look at contacts termination - I have to cut about 1 millimeter because several contacts stuck together;
    4) Fold by 180 degrees 3-4 millimeters of whole contact area from their "normal" side to opposite (which you cleared from blue sticker);
    5) Clench contacts;
    6) Check for absence of contact intersections and defects;
    7) Plug in cable to hard drive.

    Thickness of the modified cable is about 0.5 mm (as before removing blue stick) - I plugged it in without any problems.

    If you accidentally damaged cable - do not worry, just cut it and clean 3-4 mm of the cable's end with hot knife or nail file.

    I've just installed 1.8" Hitachi HTC426020G5CE00 in Acer Aspire One 110.

    P.S. I saw webdude12's warning about possibility to burn up your Hard Drive - I powered up my Aspire One with connected Hitachi HTC426020G5CE00 in all variants of cable connection and NOTHING HAPPENED, both devices are alive.

    Also I made photos of my work - I'll post them in few days.

    Sorry for mistakes, English in not my natural language.

    //Vitaly Voronin
     
    VVV76, May 27, 2009
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    Awesome news! Thanks, Vitaly.
     
    CZroe, May 28, 2009
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    I'm having problems inserting the zif cable to my toshiba 1.8" HDD MK2008GAL. I'm using the cable originally from the SSD, as far as I know it's compatible with this hd model..hope i'm right :|

    My problem is I've already sanded the cable but still it doesn't go through all the way when I insert it, is it suppose to be like that? I can only insert halfway...and I've raise the black lock clip on the hdd.. now I don't know what to do, I'm afraid sanding the cable more would damage it already.. Help anyone? Thanks!!

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    r0m, Aug 15, 2009
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    I just installed a 20GB 1.8" Hitachi HTC426020G5CE00. My flipped ZIF cable was too short so I had to cut into he empty 3G module's cavity to install it. Works great though! I used Clonezilla to image my SSD to an external 15GB drive connected by USB and then imaged it back after installing everything. If this hold up under the daily exposure to powerful magnets in my motorcycle tank bag I may just move on up to a 60 or 80GBdrive w/8MB-16MB cache or something. In the mean time, I'm keeping my My Documents folder routed to my 16GB class 6 SDHC card. Thanks for the secondary left-side semi-permanent SD slot, Acer! So, now I've moved from 8GB to 20+16GB. I recently saw a great deal on a rare class 6 32GB card that I passed on. For performance reasons, I think I'm going to stick with FAT32 on my boot drive and it would be nice to have something formatted with NTFS for larger files.

    UR DOEN ET RONG! ;)

    Once you take off the blue tab, you fold the pins over from the other side.
    Either that or snip off the blue tab and fold that side under then sand to expose pins on the opposide side from the original pins. At least I think that's how it's done (I didn't do it myself). The folded thickness should make up for it no longer having the blue tab.
     
    CZroe, Mar 18, 2010
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    Signed up just to say thanks for this thread and add Seagate Lyrion 30b to the list of drives that work fine.

    Sanded down the original cable, trimmed some mounting spots in the base (and put a screw in the top l/h SSD screwhole to level it with the top right one) before popping the drive down on some double-sided foam.

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    dpmiller, Apr 7, 2010
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