Grand Theft Auto Thread GTA

I've been doing retro games lately and decided to finally get into the definitive editions of the first 3 GTA 3d era games. GTA3, GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas. I also recently booted up GTA 4 v107 version with no steam interface etc and also I played a bit of GTA 5.

 

I played 3-SA on PS2 had the discs and all and GTA4 I'm embarrased to say I bought an original Xbox to be able to play, nothing against the game but it's ridiculous to buy console for one game. I know nintendont console owners typically buy them for Zelda and Mario new games though lol

Uh so yeah I have the original PC releases of all 3 games, no launchers of any kind and have a few qol mods for them like 6 axis cam for SA and mostly 6 axis for VC I think I might have a better cam mod for 3 but not a full 6 axis. I used cleo for cheats there and completed VC and SA again about 2-3 years ago had a blast. Vanilla graphics.

PC original versions are MUCH smaller than the DE versions. VC with mods is 1.7gb, SA with mods is about 5gb and 3 is even smaller but I never finished 3 again, too old of cameras and interface and the DE version is much better. My personal fav of that series is San Andreas, huge game, CJ's Odyssey through LA, SF and Las Vegas. 3 was my intro to the series way back in 2000 on PS2. Vice City is a nice homage to the 80s coke mafia miami movies and tv shows.

The DE versions have modern controls and cameras which is really nice. I play on my trusty xbone controller no problems and they've been patched up to work fine so far. I've played a bit of 3 and the first Los Santos sequence of SA. I'm hoping to get 3 done in a couple of sittings as a quick replay in modernized game etc

 

DE of 3 is about 5gb, DE of San Andreas is 18gb and I haven't installed it yet but VC is about 10gb. I've got dodi latest versions so can install them separately thankfully. The free versions have no launchers or logins or internet needs of any kind. There's no need for that for such old games but greedsterism and control megalomania which justar-tt certainly has like all the major shyster devs do, jubisoft being one of the worst if not worst.

My replays of FC3 and FC2 were fun but I couldn't imagine having to be always online for 11-15yo games, those poor people who likely repaid the money for those games and have all those online problems. I bought both games and all these games at one time, full price, that's enough for these greedster scum who have the mischpucka mafia legal wing jewce it so they can get paid forever for things that do NOT exist in the real world and have infinite supply etc **** modern game devs in general, all of them.

So yeah it's easy boot up and they so far have run fine, no crashes, once I got the settings right they look fine. For nostalgists it might not be great but I'm fine with the flat neutral light of SA vs. the overly orange filter of the ps2 version. And 3 on ps2 was a dark game which fit the gotham type of LC thing. Focusing on the various ethnic gangs of JYC, the mischpucka tribesters aren't shown of course but the ones shown are tribester cryptos and controlled through masonry tribester servants.

 

I recommend SA DE for sure, it looks a lot better and just for the modern cameras and qol it's worth it. It's funny that it has dlss in there too like we need that for it? I mean I use it might as well. I'm pretty sure they rebuilt the game in UE4, which seems kinda weird since all the original PC versions needed was textures, modern cams and other QOL, maybe adjusting the difficulty on some of the minigames for modern gamers and not much more. Mods have done the cameras in VC and SA for years, you can get hd texture packs and etc and they work fine.

3 was what needed an updated version the most. But otherwise it seems like a waste by these 3rd party devs just for the de versions in terms of just working with the original pc releases and their engines, less buggy smaller file sizes same functionality. I still have all 3 original pc games with the mods installed in folders I can just drag and drop to wherever I want and play. These DE versions are just for easy play and to see the better graphics, just a lazy thing for a replay for me. I would likely just go back to the old versions of VC and SA in future.

I never got texture packs for the original pc releases too so there's that, just some bandwidth to dl and time, have the extra space for install. There are also fling trainers for all 3 easy hotkey mods really to have a quick replay of each as the worlds are nice for their time but I'm not interested in doing more than the story, no exploring these basic early open 3d worlds. It's not like cp77 or gta4/5 huge worlds with lots to explore to them. And now that I have the Jackal Mod in FC2 I've been actually exploring that mysterious open world, FC3 you see most of it in story and not interested in minigames or the basic side missions too much maybe herc stuff.

 

VC has the most personality to it since it's an homage to the scarface-miami vice-coke drugs genre of south florida. Even has a trumpinasteinberg in there briefly.

The funny thing is the misdirection of trump having some redneck boss in there but in reality trumpina had a scummy jew-homo boss of Roy Cohn irl. Cohn was Mccarthy's handler for the whole communist hunt show we got. I mean sheesh the jews rosenfeld, roosevelt, were commies and the jew truman promoted obvious soviet jewish agents into UN offices and such way before all that theater. Look like they're doing something these jewmasontranny satanists for the cameras. We all live in mostly socialist societies today only getting worse towards the techno cage world they want. The merging of bankster-megacorop monopoly stock market scam with the communist scam, both tribester invented and worked for a dialectical synthesis of slavery and death to decent humanity. The Amsterdam-Jewish British Empire on one hand and the Russian-Chinese-German on the other side. Anyways back to the games.

 

So yeah so far SA and 3 are fine. Once I turn off turbo boost I don't get fan noise for these and most games. Just go into power settings and limit your cpu while plugged in to 99% and it will stay at the max ghz before it boosts up and thus ramps up temps and fans, for no good reason. Only time you need it is high cpu usage like unpacking games or large compressed files, video processing etc I turn it off for most games like cp77 for low fan noise, RDR2 for minimal fan noise, lock them to 60fps or lower. 45fps feels like 60 locked to me in big games and you're helping the cpu there since fps is dependent on cpu mostly. Turn off vsync and limit fps via NCP, globally to 60 and for certain games go to 45fps feels just as smooth. Unlock framerate if the game has that option. So I unlock fps in both games and use the global limit of 60 via NCP.

 

They're just quick replays since it's kind of a dead time as far as major games for me. A bit of dead cells fantastic game, some hollow knight another great one. Rush Rally 3 for some quick easy casual racing, some New Star GP. Was binging on FC2 second playthrough with jackal mod more casual exploration based. Different buddies missions, tower assassination missions and such.

I don't plan on playing gta6 looks awful from the teaser rs released. Probably 200gb need a 4xxx to play, always online, mostly an online game with a main SP campaign of 40-50hrs and no SP new content whatsoever just like GTA5 had. Last great SP with DLC was 4. I don't want to play as some nasty tranny in monkey miami taking down banks and stores and other garbage. It's enough. And thankfully I'm not the least into online gaming.

I'd rather have an RDR3 which can only go back in time to early van der lind gang times if they stick with that story. Could just do a new western story there post civil war for same era of guns etc They are doing a remake of Max Payne 1/2 next year so there's that and I'm betting next year we're getting a remake of GTA4 by another 3rd party contractor dev. Likely a console focused update to 5, ramping up the GTA brand for the 6 release mid 2025.

 

You can't buy them separate though on steam. And they're 60$ or coming to about 20$ each, they're not worth that for sure so get a huge discount on them or grab the free versions. Just the steam and rockstar launchers make them worth a lot less and I'm not sure if they need online always I don't think justar has gone that far but who knows. Justar wanted to redo them in UE4 that's their decision, the old pc versions could have been updated for a lot less investment and then lower price, I'm not paying for more greedster lard costs then I'm forced to.

3 de should be about 5$, VC maybe 10$, SA 15$ so whole thing should be 30$ no sales and should be available stand alone. The rest is just typical shysterism by shysters. They even pulled the old pc versions from steam in a classic ahole dev move. I've heard you can get them from justar directly though. But then you need their logins and such, nah no thanks. I would check archivedotorg for the old pc versions btw You can also easily emulate all three og ps2 and more versions as well.

 

Another thing that's better is the obnoxious dancing and low rider missions in SA. Those were the biggest pain in the butt on the original and I think the original pc versions. With the ps2 controller they chose to do the buttons to push, with the DE version it's the d pad which is much easier to use to get past them. I also think they adjusted the acceptable inputs to make them even easier which is really nice. To lock progression behind those was frustrating to many myself included.

I have not gotten far enough to get to any of the RC missions but in VC and SA some of them were torture to do and on the og pc versions I used cheats for them but they were still annoyingly challenging. The VC building bombs with an rc heli were awful and the SA airplane ones in SF were also horrible.

 

So yeah just finished the gta 3 de campaign after a marathon of 3-4hrs plus what I did last night of maybe 3-4 more so about 8hrs pushing it with cheats. The game is so old the side stuff isn't too interesting like the phone assassinations and the other minigames. Eh ok story, claude doesn't seem to find those who betrayed him his gf and the rest during the robbery I guess. He does get back at salvatore the don but I don't think cipriani or joey were included there thought you had separate missions for them.

And I forgot the Donald Love character obviously a trump character who disappears in the end very strange. Uh you are just a freelancer who does stuff as an escaped prisoner, very no man type of story for random mayhem. But the core game mechanics are the same in VC and SA just adding a few things, more of a movie homage story in VC with yet more donald but in a different form. And SA obviously is the CJ odyssey. I don't plan on playing VC at this point but will do SA more now. I'm through the first LS sequence and in the trailer park woods country part. This is a much longer game with a lot more varied missions than 3 of course, same basic mechanics to it though. Really the 3d open world basic mechanics were done in 3 except the 6 axis camera they were still figuring out how to do the camera in 3d games up until 4 which had what we have today.

There isn't too much more they can do with the basic hand controller and kbm in 3d games. Only other thing wold be the AR thing that nvidia tried with it's 3d glasses games didn't last too long but I could see that coming back more idk unless phone mobile games take over which they likely will and your standard 3d sitting games will still be there. VR is a niche who wants to wear goggles to play games or for me give them that amount of access to my mind, nope I want the space of it "out there" on a screen not immersed to the VR level, way too creepy thing to allow these maniacal megacorp devs to be given access to imo.

The 3ds was pretty cool at times to use the 3d effect enjoyed mgs3 with it most of the time. But I'm not interested in mobile gaming nor vr and 3d glasses are not my fav. Not worth it. Shiny graphics only go so far as well really, yeah so in a couple years I'll get a new card or laptop but it's not a priority for 4k gaming.

Soo yeah just do SA now. Eh gta is very formulaic game of doing criminal actions and such and the minigames are just ok. There are too many games now for a long time and gta has little relevance, 5 is still good but unless you're really into the online hamster wheel version you finished the sp years ago. So 6 will do well because gta but it's not going to be the tower in the field it was up to when 5 released on consoles almost 10 years ago and on pc 8 years ago.

RDR is a better ip imo because there are really no other huge open world western themed games, most western themed games are scifi or overtly occult focused, not classic tv or movie type of games. The last other ones that have realistic type graphics were the COJ series abandoned by techland for the dying light gravy train. There are certainly some niche ones like the one you play as the indians and such but they're B level stuff janky small etc Now we've got superhero stuff, open world games all over scifi, all sorts of games and smaller indy games that are different. Different genres all over, even zelda is now an open world game. I think RS could have also done a sequel to LA Noire great game or Bully although Bully likely wouldn't fly today.

I'll def pass on 6, it's not even going to release on pc for at least a year after consoles so 2026 at the earliest if not later than that. Prob won't have time for it anyways and the formula is stale at this point

 

RS is a division of TT megacorp so it's earnings focused and such now, so online milkathon is what it will focus on, no thanks and I'm not buying or even downloading a 200gb game for a 50hrs sp campaign only that is likely the same size as rdr2 is about 100 gb the rest is online assets you can't use if you don't do online. Similar to how 5 is over 100gb now but they just force you to grab gbs of data for online which isn't present and not used in the sp campaign. Ridiculous. They need to sell a sp version only with an optional online version like RDR2 did. But I doubt it, there's no way to do that with 5 to this day, it's all bundled to bloat the size to get you to go online and buy shark cards and such, garbage.

 

yeah san andreas looks better you can tell they spent more time updating graphics for this game probably more than the other two. A blast to play since it's all over and I'm in SF right now doing jizzy missions etc annoyingAF to do chase missions up and down those streets though. And I did the first RC zero mission w the minigun which is the easy one no doubt. Hopefully they made the bombing run mission easier somehow like the dancing and lo rider missions. I've got a trainer that stops the timer though so shouldn't be too bad. I wish those were truly optional but I don't think they are to progress the story sadly, hate those missions even the second RC one in the diorama.

I forgot that Claude is actually in this one and might be a prequel with the feisty hispanic gf in the countryside going w him to LC who might be the one who betrays him after the robbery not sure. But that would mean SA takes place a little before then at the same time as 3 does. Lots of little tie ins with the games I think, including VC. What they needed was a fourth one in this series with the protags from all three teaming up lol like a version of 5 with those three and the switching mechanic. I wonder if they'll do that in 6 with the two we saw in there, the hispanic ladyboy and the looks like white dude. Next teaser should give more info there.

But yeah SA and 3 are recommended in DE format if you can get them cheap no more than 30$ because you're likely getting about 30hrs over all three games in main story. 3 isn't worth much other than the main story and I can't imagine VC having more that's too interesting outside main story. 8hrs for 3, say 10 for VC, 16-20 for SA comes to about 30hrs. Don't pay more than 1$ per hour for games. They're getting greedier in gaming.

Alan Wake 2 has about a 20-25hrs main story and is 60$ total ripoff. Robocop is 50$ for about the same another ripoff nostalgia bait. Roguelike games are worse with short worlds you do over and over again not too fun. Dead Cells has amazing art style and now with all the DLC is worth what they charge but I'd never pay it like 40$ for all dlc. Metroidvanias are better, hollow knight is I think around 25$ for probably that long and more with the dlcs.

 

Playing through San Andreas is fun no doubt. I'm in the Las Vegas part now which is the second to last part where you go back to LA. Howlongtobeat says the main campaign is 30hrs and I don't believe that at all. Usually even with the cheats it doesn't cut much time out and I've likely played 10-12hrs there's no way just doing story missions it's going to be near 30hrs of play. I think that site over estimates times most of the time, user's input their own playtime and usually over estimate or under estimate the idea is with enough data points you can come to a mean that most people take to finish but there's no way to know how much side stuff they did, exploration and such.

This will take likely 15-20hrs main missions only and I didn't do more than 2 of the annoying zero rc missions which I was able to get through the most difficult rc plane one first try, they made it easier no doubt but it was still unpleasant to play for the most part. I was thinking they would make flying easier in general but nope. Even the Torino flying missions are a hassle but doable mostly but the planes move all over the place like they're in high winds all the time even though they obviously are not, terrible stuff. They did make the bombing mustang mission easier as well as I think there were multiple targets in the original not sure though. You just fly low to one target and come back pretty easy.

The having to drive and blow up bad guy cars fleeing gets old and is over done but the cars are better in this vs 3 where they are beach balls. Here the cars have more weight to them so they're not bouncing all over the place and unlike in 3 going into the water is not an instant death. By and large it's all pretty easy and straightforward but it would be nice to know what the story advancement missions are. The wuzi robbery I'm not sure but still doing it. The torino missions I think are the story advancement ones. Those are the flying daredevil stuff.

It's a fun and funny at times game though, beats a lot of modern games and in between games easily in fun and gameplay. It is weird you can see the whole map if you go up high enough though but it's fine, big enough for a lenghty story and new locales 3-4 times. Enjoying it mostly.

 

This whole DE series was supposedly based off of a mobile port, which I saw a few years ago for mobiles before this and lately they just released another version for mobiles. I didn't bother w it because I have a basic smartphone that wouldn't run it too well and I can't imagine how the controls would be for a 3d open world game on a phone I had a hard enough time with old SNES mario games and such. Kids now play mobile and it's hard on phones too so that's a reason to buy more phones and phones are not that cheap that can run these games well.

I may lookup the mobile versions of these games just to see what they're like. What's amazing, ly terrible is that the camera and such can be jankyAF as the original game but this is supposedly built on UE4. The Jetpack is not as good as the originals it doesn't have nozzles that pivot it just shows it in one place and you just move somehow forward, side etc with the same nozzle position. Pretty jarring on that train mission uisng the jetpack. And it was annoying to do w bad camera switching around and the jetpack being unresponsive on a precision level. Got through it but unpleasant. Makes no sense either, riding a bike along side and jumping onto the train way easier, or simply on a knoll above and waiting for it to jump down onto it.

Idk Justar is just lazy shyster company now, there's no heart to it, it's all stocks and reports and such, these remasters deserved better all around, especially for what they're asking for them. Epic paid for them to give 5 away free few years ago, some goodwill building could go a long way with these remasters free.

 

To do the last mission or one of the last Los Desperados you are forced to do the annoying gang territory takeover. This was fun back when like so much because it was new for videogames or new to the vast majority of players but today this is just tedious. I use flings trainer so it's not a big deal but thankfully I can take off my headset to not hear the annoying gun sounds over and over again. And to top it off the city is in rioting so it's harder to find gang members just hanging out to take out and provoke the gang war. So you have to take over almost the whole area around the grove and that side of town to get the mission to trigger. I wish they'd say how many more districts to take over instead of just a general take over more.

So that's padding to make the game longer I don't have interest in it otherwise. The escorting another npc is annoying. But I'm almost done just have the zero missions if I like and the LV Heist to finish with the annoying romance mechanic etc Stealing a truck etc.

 

The other issue is the terrible maps, low res posters almost and nothing is labeled on the maps. So in 3 the brief said to go get a gang car to the north in ft stanton, but the map wasn't labeled so had no idea where ft stanton was, not to mention what the gang car I had to steal looked like. Just rando I figured out it was the blue pickups. Super no details maps, lazy stuff.

Another is that there are only about 10 save slots, it's fine with 3 but not SA really. It's a much bigger game and I want to maybe go back to the riots and do rando stuff or load up early game next year and not have to start at zero, so there's 2 saves locked, etc This is supposed to be for pc's also, so give me unlimited saves and save anywhere anytime, sheesh.

 

I must have a trainer problem with SA because on the End of the Line mission when CJ trades seats with Sweet the car explodes so not sure if I'll bother to finish the game main story. I also still need to romance the LV woman to get the keycard for the wuzi heist eh.

So yeah booted up GTAV and it was nice, I need to go through my mods and delete most of them because I get a consistent invalid source 5 crash not sure what it is. 5 isn't the best GTA but it's the best looking one and funnest to free roam, most colorful world and 3 characters to switch around to.

Then booted up GTA4 v107 no DLCs old version that can take tons of mods. The car handling is too realistic for a game that isn't about racing primarily, they over did it there for sure. The color pallette is desaturated for sure which is not the best to look at but the tone of the serious story is there. What's funny is 107 is only 13gb whereas SA DE is 18gb. And I still have the old PC version of SA on there and it's 5gb. Eh GTA SA and VC have the most humor to them which is nice, some really funny stuff in there. There's little humor in 4. 5 is a mix of course but went in a bizarre direction with Trevor and other things in there and reminds me too much of the real LA which is not my favorite place tbh. Lived there a while and never really did too well there, lost time mostly.

Socal and Cal in general can be really great IF you have good income that doesn't require 60hr weeks and lots of commuting. If you live in Santa Monica or beach areas and work there and make 80k single it's great. The high cost is made up for ocean and conveniences but I never got there. Always had to live in the valley or hollywood, had to commute usually which is awful, traffic people all over, overpriced everything, crime, bad air quality, tap water quality everything just bad. Noise, etc Those coastal areas are for upper middle class and above and lower class ethnics who have been there forever or ethnics that come there to get free stuff or work cash jobs or low paid service jobs. So wealthy with paid slaves mostly is what cali is, shysters dream.

And sadly so many of even the wealthy are moving east and further polluting peaceful areas with their bs that ruined california, including the cockroach shysters looking to cash in. Second homes, rental only properties etc and these smaller cities are only too glad to help out since they make a lot of money off of it. The regular locals get screwed once again by the 'damn everyone else I need a fortune' mentality. It's pretty sad really. So then like Vegas all you get are satellites of LA everywhere or Phoenix. The coastal states are all the same though, awful communist socialists took over and milked the populace and the populace that voted them in moves out to bring their garbage politics and habits with them. Act like they're kings because of money from inflated housing prices back in cali they benefit from, with little effort or knowledge it just fell in their laps and they think they're so smart but are idiots mostly. Then they get into politics and offices where they settle down and ruin it once again.

 

I was thinking about what the best GTA game is of the top line series last night and always had the opinion that it was a tie between San Andreas and 4. Most people say San Andreas who were around within a few years of its release, probably most people born well after that would say 5.

GTA San Andreas was the only game that had 3 distinct cities in it, LA, LV and SF along with introducing Mt Chiliad and the countryside to the series. It also has the desert area and a decent water ways in between them all with boats and swimming, car customization, eating, working out, dating, lots of side content for farming money or stats, clothes stores, etc Not to mention the decent story, funny characters and missions. All the tie ins to previously released games in the top level series and the way overtop action missions with some stealth here and there, all sorts of new things. Minigames like lo rider, dancing, etc The Heist mechanic of setting up a score that was used extensively in 5. And likely a lot more I'm forgetting. I had this original on PS2, kinda wish I'd kept the disc it would be awesome memorabilia to have now. I've had the original PC release still do and of course the DE here.

GTA 4 was the most serious and detailed GTA so far. The physics and AI are better than most games today, the details of the city, the dark gritty story, they even made the car handling more realistic. RDR2 is RS best game ever and it has similar AI, physics and DETAILs as 4 just upgraded. 4 and RDR2 are really related on a deeper level and RS 2 best games. LA Noire is a different type of game that is also one of the best detective and noir games of all time. Bully is more niche really but is similar structure to GTA games in a different setting. It's pretty clear that RS is going to just focus on two IPs going forward as main releases, GTA and RDR. Max Payne was also it's own thing but seems with 3 being years ago it will just be a remake/master thing.

4 also had the last and really first DLC for a GTA game ever, both decent offerings that flesh out the world more. I'd guess each one gives an additional 20hrs or more to the base game of I'd also guess 30-40hrs so you're looking at a 70hr or so game if you get the dlcs and who hasn't played them by now? I even bought the EFLC disc back in the day where you could buy the DLC as bundled standalone games. The complete edition has the same structure you start the base game, and each dlc from their own executable. Not my fav it would have been nice to have them all intertwined in the same game session and I'm thinking this is where RS got the 3 player switching idea for 5.

My guess for any remastered remake etc of GTA4 would be that that's what they'd do, have a 3 characters switching mechanic between the base and each dlc at some point so you could play dlcs as they make sense in relation to the base game. One playing session with all content in it. But that's a big task that I'm not sure RS would do justice to frankly, like the DE half axxed disrespect of those treasures in videogame history. The shysters only care about money in vs. money out and gave that whole thing to some mobile dev, terrible. They didn't even bother doing any real work on the RDR1 switch release this year, just update it enough to work on switch and throw it out there cash grab. At least they didn't give it to some incompetent idiots like the DE fiasco.

Next year is likely going to see the release of any GTA4 remakemaster etc because 25+ is all about 6. I think other RS ip's like Max Payne 1/2 remakes are coming next year as well, and hopefully Remedont is kept on a tight leash by RS so we don't get it being as bad as Alan Wake 2 is. Bully is too non pc for the modern RS to want to remake or release, I didn't particularly like it though.

So getting back to 4 it had less options than SA did but that was fine, customizing your car in SA was a waste as the second you took it out it was trashed up anyways hardly worth the trouble or loot. I didn't like the eating and gym tedium and such. Dating was ok but it was also tedious as a mission requirement imo Boats and swimming in 4 also.

But the graphical and overall jump from SA to 4 was ASTOUNDING. It was on par with the GTA2 top down to GTA 3 fully 3d world, HUGE JUMPS. And we will probably never see jumps that big in games that are on screens. Likely GTA7 is the next major leap if there is a gta 7 or the world is still around as we know it in 2040 or something like that based on RS LOOONG release schedule for GTA. Of course RDR3 or whatever it will be called will be in between there so 2030.

Although the jump from RDR1 to RDR2 is similar to the SA to 4 jump. And remember that 2004 SA to 2008 4, FOUR YEARS ONLY. 4 to 5 2008---2013, FIVE YEARS ONLY. 5----6 TWELVE YEARS.

I mean RS shot themselves in the foot lulled by easy online money. CAN YOU IMAGINE what people are expecting for SIX?? I don't think even RS can make a jump that big for 6, it will be epic no doubt but it's not going to be worth 12 years of delay VS 5. It's going to be just a slightly upgraded RDR2 with a different location and story and typical GTA stuff.

Really RDR is the in between game you see in the RS stable. Instead of GTA6 in 2018 we got RDR2 and instead of RDR3 we're getting GTA6. They alternate every 5 years or so between these two top level ips. RDR2 was abandoned because the GTA5 Online was HUGE cash printer and RDRO just never took off or was fully supported like GTA5O was. Didn't have the mass appeal like a modern Cali does for foreign type players. It was too slow and nuanced compared to the action movie that GTA5 is. RDR2 never got any real DLC because of the online money printer of GTAO, how sad really. The priorities are made pretty clear there and I don't know why RS doesn't just go full online with a 5hr single player campaign to lure people in like COD has done or Battlefield etc

6 main SP story is going to be very disappointing and not anything that's out of your typical Netflix or Amazon drama of right now. It was written years ago no doubt and the tech isn't going to be anything but what we have now, ie social programming media infested etc in game and online intertwined with the SP game. Only really the graphics are going to be amazing---- for a GTA game----, meaning it's likely going to be about what cyberpunk is now.

And after a few months the SP campaign will be forgotten and the online part will be the game. With all the support and care given for that by RS. Similar to today where you CANNOT just buy the SP GTA5 with only it's assets in there. YOU HAVE to buy the WHOLE thing even if you don't want to play online. So instead of a 50gb game at a lower price say 35-40$ for the SP only content you have to pay 60$ for 150gb download of which in SP you're not going to see but 50gb of it.

IF RS wasn't such a greedster company they WOULD decouple SP from Online and have a limited world size and price just for SP. Look at RDR2, they had a BLOATED 115gb world size with a MOSTLY useless New Austin that was there for Online only really. They MAY have had a RDR1 remake in mind but of course that never appeared and won't. I could do without New Austin and have a more dense Ambarino town up in the grizzlies or a Colter that actually has people in it as a town. And the far side of the Lake being mostly off limits made no sense either, at least one more port would have been over there and small settlements and such even if you limit it to a few hundred in game yards of the lake front.

So then you have all this fully modeled and populated but useless to SP's that wasn't enough to get RDRO going due to the slow pace of the game compared to the fast food kids who want fast, loud, explosions, lots of sex and fast destruction and all that. Online games are about that mostly, the types who want their next fix instantly, an upper like coke vs. a slow burn like whatever downers are big, legal or not. The idiotification of the goyim accelerated.

 

And a quick summary here of GTA Vs real world is this:

GTA3--no particular real world events, more general crime narrative. Godfather, yakuza, etc gangs general stuff.

VC-80s movie genre, coke drugs, mafia, 80s music related to drugs culture big time, much of music lyrics are about drugs, lucifer etc Built this city of the "god" androgyne mankind on Rock-drugs and Roll-sex.

SA-90s ganger, LAPD juiced fake riots, arranged OJ trial theater to stoke regular people, the negro dupes easily controlled by thier old masters in the african slave trade the jews, gangster rap fakery of fake "east vs west" nonsense by two characters tat likely never died just changed clown roles in the circus. Gangster rap of violence, misogyny and selling products all in one.

GTA4-911-terrorism-immigrants-internet becomes mainstream with netcafes and such. Cell phones take off. Patriot Act national security police state.

GTA5-2008 bankster war-Financial coup scam, housing pump and dump with gov involved for graft and greed primarily, huge bailouts of "too big to fail" scam banksters like airlines bailouts, "natl security" dystopian state god.

GTA6-Covid, BLM, Social programming media, tranny main character and likely a lot more, post modern baller culture and such. Trumpinasteinberg era, with Donald Love making a major npc in 3 and a VC minor role in another form. Drugs mainstream etc

RDR has the same social programming goals just different forms of making fake history. Negroes all over in roles they were never in, similar to modern BBC classic books productions, jewmasontranny goals implanted where they don't belong or never were. Fake feminism that's been jewmasontranny personnel from the begininng, it's all marxist rabble manipulation stuff. RDR2 had a lot more of it overtly but RDR1 made sure it had "women" in commanding roles and "white" men in bad guy roles, no negro bad guys of any consequence.

In RDR2 we got the negress in there too, the bad guy italians and especially Catholic Church targeted by Jewmasontranny Star scummers. The original Jew pagan talmudick star was the Pentagram that jewstar uses, described by St Stephen in ACTS 7 as the Star of Remphan-Saturn-Moloch before these vermin stoned him. Stein--Stone, Stern--Star. Orchestrated civil war fake history, KKK, 11,11,11, jewmasonic organization presented as a normal whites thing which it WAS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN. Just another racial war conquer and divide tool.

RDR2 had some of the most overt occultism as well. The pentagram of butcher creek, the under tale of cannibalism, incest and the Pigbearman frankenstein, the fake serial killer narrative by the elite, most likely started with Yekke the Ripper in 1888, public form of satanic rituals to terrorize. Princess Izabeau occultism. UFO's which are a scam and fear monger thing as well as mind control theme, in there since San Andreas though. Bigfoot monkey man of darwins fevered dreams. The physical giants skeleton, today are just the real life HGH monster sized biowomen athletes with testosterone abuse and all the other things they do. Loch Ness is in there subtly. The subtle Animal-Man in arthurs dream sequences, the hybrid animal dna man, ancient paganism of animal worship and becoming the animal etc Ghosts, and lots else.

 

The other themes in there are Trannyism-hermetic-kabbalistic-baphomet-bearded venus-inana divine androgyne-ism. Cross dressing is littered all over GTA and RDR even if I can't name specific examples at the moment. One was Maccre and his onanism and in the ending decides to convert. Uh the cross dressing circus guy you help get back his missing performing animals in RDR2. They love to joke about this inside of course mostly.

One of the examples I saw lately was Crocodile Dundee. In that movie trannyism is joked about in the bar scene of an over the top obvious one and the two tranny hookers outside presented as females, then at the high society party the obvious drag queen host gets felt up by hogan to "make sure" etc You'll see these inside jokes by this satanic cult in their media matrix all over and games are just a fusion of tv-movies and hands on games like sports.

We got the Oz-tralia invasion from "down under" where it's hot, hell. Many prominent ones now and for a long time the two biggest being trannyman Mel Gibson and huge ladyboy Nick Kidman from an illustrious satanic ancestry. Remember Australia was a penal colony so you got the dregs taken there, it's a scary gov and place really. Wizard of Australia, scary. It's a pirate country with big smiles all around like killer klowns world.

The female lead is a flaming drag queen tranny, the deep voice the drag queen look we've got since the beginning of trannyhookerwood in ones like Joan Crawford, Maureen O Hara the constant co star of Ms Marion Wayne. Wayne had the wide hips and typical fatty mid section and female fat distro we were conditioned to in old black and white movies easier to see as she aged so like the cowboys and such. Fatty hips and big huge backsides that don't fit your typical biomale fat distribution. Normal biomale has a belly hanging down with a SMALL butt that's low. And Paul Hogan was born with ovaries, you can see the body distro of an old woman easily now, like Clintina Eastwood, no chest, wears pants way high now which shows the short torso of a female, female breast tissue was removed in early adolescence at the latest. The REAL croc dundee if you look at the picture with no shirt had your typical frankenstein trannyman chest, nipples all wrong etc

Hogans eventual wife and costar also has the HUGE mouth of someone who has taken premarin estrogen since before puberty. It's derived from prego horse mares so they develop the huge pallettes over and above normal males larger mouths. Hogan has the bulb head and close together eyes of your typical HGH bulb head trannyman who didn't take as much testosterone injections as your normal sports stars and sodomwood stars. Hogans wife also in event pics looks like your typical jewish man in a whig and he is jewish with the name btw