Need driver for built-in microphone for Aspire One - XP ver

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    ccuina

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    Thanks for prompt reply. I bet yours also has the SuYin CCD. If so, I tend to think there are minor nuances amongst supposedly identical A1s, one of them preventing your mic to work.

    Unaware if your's has always been XP as mine, but many of the features/symptoms you describe match with my "deaf mike" unit (model 150-1006 built 0810). So don't give up, you're close to solve issue, unless there's real HW damage on your side.

    From what I recall seeing in posts, r1.78 is the one that has solved many of the issues, thus I'd focus in that one. I downloaded r1.78 from http://freewarelist.net/realtek-high-definiton-audio.html and proceeded as described in my post yesterday.

    I did many things thus can not recall all of them or order, but I would suggest to double check in Realtek's HD app the mic is selected as input device. You can also do in the recording control applet, as it's hooked to Realtek HD. Just to make sure, here's what my Realtek HD audio app shows as info (sorry, but not yet aware how to paste images) Blue is what I have on my other A1, the one that ever experienced mic issues
    Audio Driver Version: 5.10.0.5485 (5.10.0.5628)
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (DirectX 9.0)
    Audio Controller: HD Audio
    Audio Codec: ALC268

    Thus, as you can see there are differences in both driver version and Direct X version.

    Maybe you've done this a myriad of times, but I'll suggest to retest again, completely removing existing realtek drivers, rebooting, installing r1.78 and making sure mike is selected as source, and there's enough volume on it.

    Hope this helps and if anyhow can assist just let me know.
     
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    ccuina, thanks for the help, I just changed to the 178 drivers and that did the trick for me. I did post details in this thread:

    viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8968&p=59166#p59166

    On the procedure I used but basically you have said it all already. Just wanted to report that it worked for me and I'm a happy camper now :)
     
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    Peaty, thanks for update. Glad my post assisted.

    Out of curiosity, was your 160GB expected to be 120GB? Do you have the SuYin CCD? Just trying to determine if there's a common pattern on the "deaf mike" issue.
     
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    No mine was listed as a 160GB although right next to it was the 120 GB with all the exact same specs for the same price (349USD @ office depot) I tried to see what the difference was but neither I or the sales guy could find any other than the hard drive. How do I tell which CCDI have? The webcam driver says "Sonix" I believe it has the lite-on drivers.

    I still have to do a cold boot I suppose to be 100% sure it does not revert but I'm keeping my fingers crossed :mrgreen:
     
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    ccuina

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    Well, I guess that derails my assumption that the supposedly 120GB with actual 160GB did feature a difference rendering some of realtek's drivers useless

    Exactly as you did, looking into Control Panel->System->Hardware->Device->Image Devices->Webcam. On my A1s I have SuYin and Sonix, although recall having installed SuYin and Lite-On drivers.

    Hope your mike survives a reboot. Even having a RP, restoring is a pain in the neck.
     
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    Well, I just did a cold boot and it seems the mic still works :D

    As for the type of webcam I've attached a screen shot from the device manager, do I need to do it again with another tab or is this OK?

    Just checked the build date on the sticker (on the bottom) and it says 0811, so I assume it's November 2008.
     
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    Peaty: Glad to hear your mike still on after reboot.

    Regarding HW features, well, there goes my theory on being a common HW thread behind the "deaf mike" issue. Not only is your A1 160GB, but features the Sonix CCD, meanwhile my stubborn unit is 160GB -yet supposed to be 120GB- but has the SuYin CCD.

    I guess finding root cause for deaf mike still to be identified. Luckily both of us found a way to get it working.
     
    ccuina, Jan 4, 2009
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    Ccuina,how do you find which camera and resolution (0.3 or 1.3 mpxl) you have?
     
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    ccuina

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    Robandjeanne, per Official Spec post http://www.aspireoneuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=36 all are 0.3MP

    There's a similar post, that went unanswered http://www.aspireoneuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=9014&p=58133&hilit=crystal#p58133 here you can see image files report 640x480, which means ~0.3MP. Did a quick check on one of my units and got same results

    Finally, kind of recall seeing a message from one avid poster stating same, all 0.3MP and checking image size one of the ways to confirm it. However, after ~45min searching unable to locate again.

    Summing up, I'm not aware of a way to take 1.3MP, and heavily leaning into thinking std A1 doesn't support it.
     
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    I finally had some indication that my mic works, sorta. I went back to the original driver version, 1.94, that came with it. after installing it and restarting , I tried recording with the sound recorder. I got indications that it was working, but very weakly. I listened to it and it was there, but way too quiet to be usable. I then went to control panel sound settings and turned the mic volume all of the way up. Now with sound recorder, all is dead again. Nothing is recorded. Very strange.
     
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    My mic initially was the same way. With both 1.94 and 2.12. I thought it was not working at all but I made a super loud noise right on top of the mic, and when I played it back I did very faintly heard something. For me the only thing that worked (as indicated) was loading on the 1.78 drivers. It's still working too after many reboots and even survived me upgrading the RAM last night :)
     
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    Kodaker, I second Peaty take. One of my units has only had r1.94, and mic sensitivity vs the other unit -that I had to downgrade to r1.78 to get working- is incredibly poorer. r1.78 with mic volume at almost zero is similar to r1.94 over halfway.

    The fact that you got it working for a brief time is promising. Now you know for sure your mic ain't broken. Hope you find a final -and stable- solution to the "deaf mic" issue.
     
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    Found original post http://www.aspireoneuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=8972&start=10 Seems all A1s are 0.3MP
     
    ccuina, Jan 8, 2009
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    Well a friend saw my AAO and decided he wanted one too. He could not find the 160 GB version local to him (he lives in a town over) so I picked up one same place I got mine just now. I told him I'd set it up and do all the fixes and whatnot (firmware, mic and stuff) and bring it to work Monday for him. Well as it was booting up and doing that load thing it does I checked the mic and what do you know it works. Strange, I was expecting to have to load the older drivers. AFAIK it's no different than mine but apparently something is not the same. Still trying to find out what version of drivers it's using.

    edit w/ more info. Seems that this unit was built one month later than mine. I already has the latest BIOS installed not sure if that has anything to do with it or not.
     
    Peaty, Jan 10, 2009
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    At the risk of sounding like a retard, can someone tell me if the internal mic is wired up to the analog mic jack in the same way as the internal speakers, i.e. if you plug an external device into the analog jack then the internal device is disconnected?

    I am assuming that the "Realtek HD Audio Input" device in the sound mixer panel, the only audio input device available, will actually be routed to either the internal or external mics depending on whether or not an external mic is plugged into the analog jack.

    If these assumptions are correct then an external mic works OK for me but the internal mic does not seem to register any kind of gain whichever driver version I use.
     
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    Some of us think there is a software switch that routes either the internal or external mic to the Realtek software. In other words the old mechanical switch where an ext mic would connect instead of the internal when the ext jack was pushed in is not how acer did it (wish they did). You can sense this by watching the Realtec HD Sound Manager in the input/output tab, The ext mic lights up when you push the ext mike in. Conversely it doesn't light up when no ext mic is plugged in. Normally when the ext mic doesn't light up you would think the int mic was selected, but I think this is exactly the problem. The int mic is never selected. Users of larger acer laptops have reported difficulties in getting the acer to select internal mic, so this quirkiness is not just with the aa1. I think it is absolutely stupid for acer to not own up to this problem and either tell us how to fix it or tell us why we're too stupid to fix it ourselves.
     
    robandjeanne, Jan 10, 2009
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    Have Any Deaf Mic Owners Tried Acer eRecovery?

    To restore aa1 back to factory defaults and see if mic is deaf in default condition.. Since I believe it wipes out all your programs it's pretty drastic. However, those planning on sending their aa1 back anyway because of deaf mic probably have nothing to lose, as well as those switching operating systems.
     
    robandjeanne, Jan 12, 2009
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    I have seen the internal mic on the AAO advertised in several places as a "digital mic". If this is correct then I suspect that the internal mic may be some kind of self-contained digital device (cheap mic + serial A2D chip) on an internal serial bus rather than another analog device controlled via the RealTek audio mux/switch.
     
    ronime, Jan 12, 2009
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    Deaf mic and other owners what is the revision of your xp os? Go to c:, sys info, os to read it. Mine is July 16,2008 rev 1Rc1. I have the deaf mic. How about those without deaf mic, what is your rev?
     
    robandjeanne, Jan 16, 2009
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    I have the deaf mic and mine says Version = RV2RC4 and Date = 2008-Sep-05
     
    kodaker, Jan 16, 2009
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