SSD vs HD ONE

Discussion in 'Acer Aspire One' started by geta, Aug 25, 2008.

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    rjm

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    The hard drive should not be subjected to bumps or excessive tilts while the heads are moving. In practice this means you should but the machine in standby while moving it, carrying it around, etc., or you do run a very real risk of damage. People do move their laptops without going to standby of course, but most people I know are pretty careful when they do.

    With my SSD A110 I can be watching a movie, pick the thing up and carry it vertically with the screen half open to the next room and plop it on the table. Totally casual, without any risk of anything.

    I can't say if its worth trading an HDD for, but I can say its really nice to have.
     
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    I fear for the casing and screen on the netbooks of the people who claim having an SSD gives them this ability - I've worked in IT in the past, and I can't tell you the number of shattered laptop LCD screens I've seen that became damaged while powered down and closed. Yes, an SSD takes last damage from the random jolt. However, there are still plenty of components that can take substantial damage regardless of whether they incorporate moving parts.

    As for fearlessly powering off b/c you use an SSD, that's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make. The problem with an abrupt power down isn't a mechanical failure, it's the corruption to the file system and the MBR.
     
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    there is a big difference between moving a notebook around and sitting on it :p

    I agree any comment stating that abrupt shutdown is okay with an SSD is misguided. Problems occur when the operating system keep files open (system files) and needs to write changes to them but can't when the power is pulled. This is also related to how the file system is handled as mentioned above.
     
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    "As for fearlessly powering off b/c you use an SSD, that's an incredibly ridiculous statement to make."

    Who said that? And what are you talking about?

    A hard drive is particularely vulnerable to damage when the heads moving around over the platter surface. Flash memory has no such weakness. No more and no less to it than that.
     
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    Hmm.. I definitely misread one of the above posts. I still stand by the proposition that hard drives only very rarely ever suffer physical damage. jostling during use isn't much of a problem (otherwise people using laptops on planes/train/buses would brick instantly). The AA1 HDD should have no trouble whatsoever as an everyday carry laptop, provided that it's shutdown entirely prior to being stuffed into a bag. If hard drives were so unstable, the idea of carrying around a laptop would be ridiculous. I've carried all sizes of laptops 8" - 17" and have yet to see a hard drive fail simply due to carrying, It usually takes a hard fall while in a write cycle to really damage a drive.
    Besides, even the SSD AA1 still has moving parts. Damage the fan and you might as well have bricked the entire unit. Laptops CPU fans are notoriously not user serviceable. Tossing around a netbook with a running fan is a bad idea regardless of the type of hard drive.
     
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    I have an a15(the hdd version) myself, and I carry it around while running all the time. I was wondering if it would damage the hdd, I think what you guys here say is just not true, you don't have to hold it completely still, as long as you don't bump it or anything, it should by fine I think. As far as I know, the 160GB Ipod uses a normal 2.5" hdd, just like our AA1 does..
     
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    I am soo getting tired of people blaming HDD not beeing portable.
    It never has been a issue for the last decade and it seem a lot of SDD market is created by the fear of dataloss. Having owned at leat 7 laptops for the last couple of years i can say: none of the HDD laptops ever failed me.
    Dont get me wrong: "You cant take a HDD drive, running XP with virtual mem enabled running 25 application on a bouncy castle..." - Yet, who does anyway?

    SDD will replace HDD at some point, but until then it falls short on both read/write time and the hefty pricetag. By the time SSD gets faster and cheaper, we are probarbly already moved to SATA-3 or any other interface standard.

    On the power consumption argument: SSD and HDD are not far off at all. In fact a lot of SSD are still using more power than the average HD. ( http://www.google.nl/search?source=ig&h ... eken&meta= ). My A150 still last 2,6h on an average load.

    So the only big reason left to get SSD is in fact the cewlness factor....
    But then again...It always comes with a price to buy 1st gen, doesnt it ;)
     
    edgecrush3r, Sep 9, 2008
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