Using messenger

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    daldred

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    OK, let's do this wholesale!

    We'll create another directory for the old .so files, and move them all ther (so we can get them back if this causes trouble), then see what happens. I'm still a little concerned about why messenger wants to cereate lib files in the home directory, though; it's entriely the wrong placve in Linux standard terms!

    Anyway, here's what to do (in the terminal; you could also do it using My Files if you prefer the graphical route):
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    cd
    mkdir oldlibs
    sudo mv *.so oldlibs/
    ls *.so
    (so 'cd' with nohting after it just makes sure you're in your home directroy, then the next line makes the directory oldlibs; then we move everything ending in .so into that new directory (sudo because some of them are shown as belonging to root, not user).

    The final 'ls' command should bring up an error saying there's no such file as *.so, confirming that they have all been moved.

    Then try launching Messenger in the normal way, and see if it works. If not, go back to a terminal again and launch it from there (so use 'UIM' again) and see what errors it throws this time.
     
    daldred, Jan 1, 2009
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    OK; so the system thinks UIM is already running. First, check whether there is a messenger icon in your tray on the panel (that is, the right hand end of the grey bar at the bottom of the screen); if there is then you ned to quit it (right click and quit), then try again.

    If there's no icon there, enter this into a terminal:
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    ps ax | grep UIM
    and post the response here. (That command gets a list of all processes which are running, and looks for UIM in the list.)
     
    daldred, Jan 1, 2009
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    skeggy

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    Hi

    I checked there was no icon in the bar so I followed what you said and got this

    4707 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep UIM


    Thanks
     
    skeggy, Jan 1, 2009
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    daldred

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    (@skeggy:)

    Hmm. In that case, whatever it think is running as a messenger application isn't the Acer one. I was hoping to avoid a long list, but this time do
    Code:
    ps ax
    (same thing without using grep to limit the output) and paste that in here. It will be long!

    Unless, of course, you can identify that you have something running which is a messenger client of some sort - have you also started pidgin, or something like that? If so, it may be using the port which UIM wants to use!
     
    daldred, Jan 1, 2009
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    skeggy

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    We have been using Meebo on the acer. Is that any help?
     
    skeggy, Jan 1, 2009
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    skeggy

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    Did what you suggested and got this in the terminal window

    [user@localhost ~]$ Code: Select All ps ax
    bash: Code:: command not found
    [user@localhost ~]$
     
    skeggy, Jan 1, 2009
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    I think you've copied the instructions for selecting code at the top of the code window as well as its contents. Try just copying over the contents (click on the 'select all' and press ctrl-C to copy is the easy way)
     
    daldred, Jan 1, 2009
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    skeggy

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    Told you I was a novice lol

    Got this

    [user@localhost ~]$ ps ax
    PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
    1 ? Ss 0:00 init [5]
    2 ? S< 0:00 [kthreadd]
    3 ? S< 0:00 [migration/0]
    4 ? S< 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
    5 ? S< 0:00 [migration/1]
    6 ? S< 0:00 [ksoftirqd/1]
    7 ? S< 0:00 [events/0]
    8 ? S< 0:00 [events/1]
    9 ? S< 0:00 [khelper]
    37 ? S< 0:00 [kblockd/0]
    38 ? S< 0:00 [kblockd/1]
    41 ? S< 0:00 [kacpid]
    42 ? S< 0:00 [kacpi_notify]
    164 ? S< 0:00 [ata/0]
    165 ? S< 0:00 [ata/1]
    166 ? S< 0:00 [ata_aux]
    169 ? S< 0:00 [ksuspend_usbd]
    175 ? S< 0:00 [khubd]
    178 ? S< 0:00 [kseriod]
    216 ? S 0:00 [pdflush]
    217 ? S 0:00 [pdflush]
    218 ? S< 0:00 [kswapd0]
    219 ? S< 0:00 [aio/0]
    220 ? S< 0:00 [aio/1]
    471 ? S< 0:00 [scsi_tgtd/0]
    472 ? S< 0:00 [scsi_tgtd/1]
    479 ? S< 0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
    481 ? S< 0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
    502 ? S< 0:00 [kirqd]
    528 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/xinit -- -br
    538 tty2 S<s+ 3:46 X :0 -br
    551 ? S< 0:00 [kpsmoused]
    597 ? Ss 0:00 login -- user
    618 tty1 Ss+ 0:00 -bash
    621 ? Ss 0:25 dbus-daemon --system
    652 tty1 S+ 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc
    721 tty1 S+ 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session
    722 ? Ss 0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address
    733 tty1 SL+ 0:00 gnome-keyring-daemon
    735 tty1 S+ 0:00 /usr/bin/xfce4-session
    749 tty1 Sl+ 0:12 /usr/bin/xfdesktop2
    770 ? Ss 0:01 xfce-mcs-manager
    772 ? S 0:01 /usr/libexec/gam_server
    781 ? S<s 0:00 /sbin/udevd -d
    783 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher -d -c simple -e all -
    1596 tty1 S+ 0:03 xfwm4
    1603 tty1 S+ 0:45 xfce4-panel
    1605 tty1 S+ 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/search-bar/start-search_bar.sh
    1635 tty1 S+ 0:00 acer-search-desktop --x=510 --y=65 --width=490 --heig
    1637 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-helper-manager
    1638 ? Ssl 0:02 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-panel-gtk --display :0.0 -c so
    1640 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher -d -c socket -e socke
    1641 tty1 S+ 0:04 /usr/libexec/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-xkb-plugin soc
    1652 tty1 S+ 0:00 scim-bridge
    1656 ? S< 0:00 [kmemstick]
    1667 ? S< 0:00 [kmsv1block]
    1677 ? S< 0:00 [kxd_card]
    1696 ? S< 0:00 [kondemand/0]
    1697 ? S< 0:00 [kondemand/1]
    1722 ? S< 0:00 [pciehpd]
    1732 ? S< 0:00 [kmmcd]
    1754 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid
    1763 ? Ss 0:12 hald
    1764 ? S 0:02 hald-runner
    1789 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-cpufreq
    1791 ? S 0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/a
    1802 ? S 0:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event3 /dev
    1825 ? S 0:00 /bin/bash /usr/sbin/jmb38x_d3e.sh
    1848 ? Ss 0:00 /bin/sh -e /usr/acer/bin/TaskQueueManager
    1855 ? Ss 0:00 python /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py
    1857 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/puplet
    1862 ? Ss 0:00 update-notifier
    1948 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 12
    1969 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/acer/bin/TaskQueueManagerbin
    2219 ? Ssl 0:01 console-kit-daemon
    2221 ? S 0:00 python /usr/bin/open-session
    2303 ? Ss 0:00 cupsd
    2313 tty1 S+ 0:08 Thunar --daemon
    2324 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/maclesmount listen
    2334 ? Ss 0:00 wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.
    2352 ? Ssl 0:08 NetworkManager --pid-file=/var/run/NetworkManager/Net
    2371 ? Ss 0:01 NetworkManagerDispatcher --pid-file=/var/run/NetworkM
    2401 ? Ss 0:00 crond
    2404 ? Sl 0:05 /usr/bin/nm-applet
    2409 ? S 0:04 /usr/bin/kpowersave
    2458 ? S< 0:00 [aufsd]
    2459 ? S< 0:00 [aufsd]
    2460 ? S< 0:00 [aufsd]
    2461 ? S< 0:00 [aufsd]
    2499 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 8
    2506 ? Ss 0:00 kdeinit Running...
    2510 ? S 0:00 dcopserver --nosid --suicide
    2512 ? S 0:00 klauncher [kdeinit]
    2514 ? S 0:00 kded
    2561 ? S 0:00 splashd
    2567 ? S 0:00 xhkeys
    2592 ? Ss 0:11 gnome-screensaver
    2656 ? S 0:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/libexec/nm-dhcp-client.act
    2673 ? S 0:00 dbus-launch --autolaunch d27cb7f969d246dbedf1ae0047e1
    2674 ? Ss 0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 7 --print-address
    2676 ? S 0:01 /usr/libexec/notification-daemon-xfce
    2714 ? Ss 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.0.14/firefox -UILocale e
    2732 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.0.14/run-mozilla.sh /usr
    2737 ? Rl 13:21 /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.0.14/firefox-bin -UILocale en-GB
    3244 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/xfrun4 --daemon
    11145 ? S 0:00 sleep 300
    11314 ? Ss 0:00 Terminal
    11315 ? S 0:00 gnome-pty-helper
    11316 pts/0 Ss 0:00 bash
    11396 pts/0 R+ 0:00 ps ax
    [user@localhost ~]$
     
    skeggy, Jan 1, 2009
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    daldred

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    Hmm. I can't see anything in there which looks loike a messenger client; and as I understand it meebo (run as a website) doesn't use any ports other then the standard web ones.

    Do you still get the same error if you reboot the machine first?
     
    daldred, Jan 1, 2009
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    skeggy

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    Tried to log onto messenger and got
    Your MSN Messenger account ***********@hotmail.com is error
    Connection error from Notification server:
    Unable to connect


    I have managed to log in once to msn using the netbook and it booted me off after a few minutes
     
    skeggy, Jan 1, 2009
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    I had same problem but after using the update prog it worked dont no how but it worked
     
    Rays, Jan 1, 2009
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    daldred

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    It works after updates becuase Microsoft keep changing the logon protocols for Messenger to try to force people to use their software. If it stops working again, give it a day or so and the peole programming the alternatives will have worked it out again - and while you're waiting complain to Microsoft.
     
    daldred, Jan 1, 2009
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    skeggy

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    I have done updates and when I try to do more it states "your computers updates are up to date" or wording roughly to that effect.

    So you are under the opinion it's a case of Bill Gates wanting to annoy us penguins? So hopefully an update will be done soon that will overcome this problem?
     
    skeggy, Jan 1, 2009
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    daldred

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    To be honest I'm not sure what the problem is - my AAO still logs on to MSN using a hotmail password, so I don't think it can (this time) be the logon protocols, unless they are taking time to propogate to different servers.
     
    daldred, Jan 1, 2009
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    Hi,
    My messenger wouldn't work either so I followed what seemed to be the solution and did a live update, however, my laptop crashes whilst trying to install the last live update and so none installed.

    However, when I tried to begin these updates again to try and fix the still not working messenger, it will not give me any live updates to install and instead comes back with an error message saying it has failed and asking whether I would like to try again.

    I have tried again several times with no luck!
    Can anyone help?

    Thanks.
     
    katiebabey, Jan 4, 2009
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    daldred

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    One things which might work (it worked for someone else) is to empty the directory where Live Update keeps its data. Navigate in the filemanager to the directory /var/cache/online-updater and wipe all the files, then try running Live Update again.
     
    daldred, Jan 4, 2009
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    Hi, completely new to this forum but I just wanted to say that, after buying an AspireOne for my daughter, we had exactly the same problem: 'Our protocol is not supported by the server'. I went to this forum and read about the updates, tried it and it didn't work - but I went back to the updates later (after virtually giving up on it) and I found that 3 of the updates hadn't gone through.

    Once they had gone through everything worked! I'll have to be honest though and say that downloading those last three updates took absolutely ages - probably the best part of the day because it kept timing out/being distrupted/etc - very frustrating. But please stick with it and Messenger will be up and running. It may sound like a chore - and it is - but it's better than harrassement from a teenage girl ... trust me!

    I'd like to add my thanks for the help provided on this forum - even though the question was asked by someone else. :)
     
    ronkea, Jan 4, 2009
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    I've managed to log onto MSN via the AAO a few times, these indeed being few and far between, however the majority of times it just won't let me sign in.

    Any ideas anyone how I can rectify this?
     
    skeggy, Jan 6, 2009
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    OMG!!!!! I've not had chance to get on the computer recently and have just done the last thing you suggested for me Daldred and it's working!!! Thank you thank you thank you. Can't tell you how much i appreciate what you and all the others do for us newbies on this site.

    Skeggy - I'm sorry you've got the same problem and hope you get it resolved soon, but it's nice to know I'm not the only one. Good luck.
     
    SLB, Jan 8, 2009
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